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Zippy's avatar

Please find a somewhat different Understanding of the non-human inhabitants of this mostly non-human world, and human beings too, the author of which was born in New York in that fateful year of 1939 - New York was/is of course the "belly of the east"

http://fnmzoo.org/wisdom/teaching/a-contemplative-state-of-exaltation

http://fearnomore.vision/world-2/not-merely-that

This reference describes his Illuminated State at birth

http://www.kneeoflistening.com/chapter-one/6

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A paradox: Steve says"The journey of faith is not so much a ladder to God, but a descent into participation-into the furnace of divine love." (and overlook Jacob's ladder-I live in the Bible-Belt)

My view is that I in stillness through the igniting the "spark-the divine image" in our soul(can) ascend

to our upper soul where God is waiting. It is the higher order of reality-beyond the process of time,

the awakening to our true "I". Once one reaches this level he/or she will "love" participation of

being in the furnace/fire(the lower soul of our physical selves-time/eternity is the upper soul-God).

The paradox: It is the same: your descent, my ascent ="s "Live in time and yet rooted in eternity."

You like John and Teresa(as I do); I like Eckhart and M. Porta (sp?)(she was burned alive 1310 for

her views!) and Eckhart faced the Inquisition over his views and might have burned, but he was

a Meister having taught in Paris twice, so he was able to appeal to the Pope.

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